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JMS88 Sophomore Member

Joined: 29 Nov 2007 Posts: 151 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:34 pm Post subject: Youtube videos |
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After a lot of thought I decided to take the videos down off of Youtube. I’ve been getting some negative responses from some users and the comments section to me had become out of control. Quite frankly, I find a lot of what people say on You Tube about People’s Temple ignorant and disgusting. This not only goes for the comments on my videos, I see it other places on Youtube as well. I refused to block comments, because I don’t like to squelch free speech, but I also didn’t want to give “trolls” a place to come and try to hurt people.
The tapes of course are still available on AltCon for two dollars a piece. I’m making the digital audio available on Ebay for anyone who might be interested.
I know many of you enjoyed these tapes, so I hope you all understand where I’m coming from with this. |
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jeremyredd Sophomore Member

Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 82
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| I for one listened to them everyday, this comes as a major blow to me personally. Just hurry and post the ebay listing I guess so i can buy them from you. But why Ebay? Are you wanting to start a bidding war or are you going to offer multiple buys? |
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JMS88 Sophomore Member

Joined: 29 Nov 2007 Posts: 151 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| jeremyredd wrote: | | I for one listened to them everyday, this comes as a major blow to me personally. Just hurry and post the ebay listing I guess so i can buy them from you. But why Ebay? Are you wanting to start a bidding war or are you going to offer multiple buys? |
Hey Jeremy,
Sorry to hear that this was a major blow to you. I didn't realize that anyone was listening to these on a daily basis. Just so you know, there is a guy (forget his name right now) that is digitalizing all of these tapes and they are going to be available on AltCon. I'm not sure when that is going to be happening but they are going to make the whole collection available all at once. Also, as I stated, AltCon has the whole collection for $2 dollars per tape.
As far as Ebay goes, I am not looking to start a bidding war. Just recoup a little of the time I've invested in converting all of these tapes over to a digital format. Anyway, if you would like to talk about my Ebay send me a private message. |
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joeyjosef Site Admin

Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 574 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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there is still an article in this for this years JTR....with the angle that people, no matter how objectively you present information, will only comwe around to ridicule and flame........
Joey _________________ "It has to start somewhere.
It has to start sometime.
What better place than here, what better time than now?" |
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neildonoghue Freshman Member
Joined: 04 Mar 2008 Posts: 10
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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yes i think your reasons for removing them are perfectly understandable..
they are not mainstream listening and therefore the abuse is to be expected..
i can put myself in your shoes and would say that its no fun receiving comments
like that to your account (regardless of content)...
i am however interested in buying them...
like personal day to day pop music to me too
multiple copies would be great .... |
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Sloyment Sophomore Member
Joined: 16 Mar 2008 Posts: 60 Location: Hamburg, FRG
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:47 am Post subject: |
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Too bad
I only had a chance to listen to a few of them...
Could you please upload the audio files to my PC, so that I can host them? |
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joeyjosef Site Admin

Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 574 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:10 am Post subject: |
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I was going to send this only to John, but..............might as well let you all read my thoughts....
I REALLY wish you would have said something to someone here first b4 taking down the vids.....
I realize you're a man....you make up yo y'own mine............
But man, what a loss!!!!
the thing is, I dont think it would have been a bad thing to block comments. Records never came with a place for you to write your profane laden rant about how much you hate the new judas priest album.....it got put it out there....if you liked it, then good. If you didnt, too bad.
I looked at it as just a way to add to the effort of making this kind of information MORE READILY AVAILABLE....sure, you can get it other places and ways.......but YT was free (not for John, unfortunately....who was paying for the tapes).....and YT is frequently searched for this kind of stuff....
I took my Q875 vids down, but fortunately I had the other back up website where I posted the audio.....
I just feel like a real opportunity may have been lost......a couple jerks trolled and filled your inbox with bs comments and that sucks.....but man I wish we could have done something else.........
Anyone interested in getting the tapes simply needs to read the ANNOUNCEMENT in the TAPES forum about where you get them.
Joey _________________ "It has to start somewhere.
It has to start sometime.
What better place than here, what better time than now?" |
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jeremyredd Sophomore Member

Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 82
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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Another problem with all of this is that I found this web site through a link on the YT tapes. I can understand wanting to make a little money off your efforts, but a warning to us forum memebers would have been nice.
I am still waiting on my PM with info to buy them from you, once I get them I will upload them as mp3 so we all can have them and not even have to deal with YT. |
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neildonoghue Freshman Member
Joined: 04 Mar 2008 Posts: 10
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| joeyjosef wrote: |
the thing is, I dont think it would have been a bad thing to block comments. Records never came with a place for you to write your profane laden rant about how much you hate the new judas priest album..... |
yes thats true the comments can be blocked that was always an option mmm
I have not heard the latest offering from Priest..I loved Painkiller though..Rob Halford what a voice
I have a digital audio studio here at home too so Ill upload some hopefully too when I buy them...
Im currently looking for a job ..Im a bit broke for now but hopefully something will arrive soon! |
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TusneldaDK Site Admin

Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 387 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with Joey. It is important to get the information out there and let people make their own minds up about what they hear. But it is of course your decision. Personally I wouldn't have hesitated to shut down the comments-section. I don't consider that quelching free speech, because people can speak freely about it all they want just not exactly at your youtube-video-page. Also I find it ironic that you yourself have been quelched by free speech....
I hope that you will reconsider at some point, but a big thanks for your effort so far!!
May I ask why you don't merge your audio-collection with that of Alt. Cons. website? Are they working in a different format? Another quality? Would be awfully altruistic of you to make your hard work available to others who try to educate themselves within the subject of PT. You could still sell copies on e-Bay. |
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